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Re: "Fixing health care"
Posted by: Hemingway (IP Logged)
Date: March 13, 2017 10:48AM

I don't look for outliers. I just expose your false statements. That's all. We are not the only industrialised country with a doctor shortage. And there is evidence of an impending collapse of the British healthcare system.

Don't make false statements and I won't have any ammo.

Re: "Fixing health care"
Posted by: Webjoy (IP Logged)
Date: March 13, 2017 10:52AM

Hemingway Wrote:
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> I don't look for outliers. I just expose your
> false statements. That's all. We are not the only
> industrialised country with a doctor shortage. And
> there is evidence of an impending collapse of the
> British healthcare system.
>
> Don't make false statements and I won't have any
> ammo.


You are like pismire. You find one country that has a shortage of doctors out of dozens that do not and make a nebulous comparison.

And the Brits health care system is only having problems, because the Brit version of Republicans have been underfunding it.

Single payer systems run by governments are way more efficient, cheaper, and better outcomes and that really bothers you because you are one of the idiot, private sector is always better dooshbags.



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Re: "Fixing health care"
Posted by: Hemingway (IP Logged)
Date: March 13, 2017 12:11PM

Germany is not just another country in Europe. They are the world's 4th largest economy and the most populous country in Europe. So their doctor shortage is not a trivial detail.

And the UK's national health service is suffering from something that makes all single payer systems vulnerable. Politicians set a budget for healthcare and if demand or costs are higher than expected then rationing begins. That's exactly what's happening in Britain.

In the USA, we have one example of the federal government running a single payer system; it's the Department of Veterans Affairs. Something akin to the VA is not something you want to inflict on the nation as a whole.

Re: "Fixing health care"
Posted by: gammaray (IP Logged)
Date: March 13, 2017 12:22PM

Medicare seems to work very well, allowing people to by into it was on the table but a few Dems wouldn't go for it, too bad.

Re: "Fixing health care"
Posted by: Webjoy (IP Logged)
Date: March 13, 2017 01:11PM

Hemingway Wrote:
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> Germany is not just another country in Europe.
> They are the world's 4th largest economy and the
> most populous country in Europe. So their doctor
> shortage is not a trivial detail.
>
> And the UK's national health service is suffering
> from something that makes all single payer systems
> vulnerable. Politicians set a budget for
> healthcare and if demand or costs are higher than
> expected then rationing begins. That's exactly
> what's happening in Britain.
>
> In the USA, we have one example of the federal
> government running a single payer system; it's the
> Department of Veterans Affairs. Something akin to
> the VA is not something you want to inflict on the
> nation as a whole.


As Gams says, and you seemed to miss, Medicare works very well. If the Veterans affairs isn't performing to specs, it is mostly because Republicans don't like to fund soldiers after they've served America in the armed forces. Republicans rarely serve also. Unlike Dems, who serve at a much higher percentage.

And remember Trump calling American hero McCain not a hero because he was captured.

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