Re: Family views death as lesson for others
Posted by: Rightside
Date: December 18, 2007 12:18PM
Boils down to Wrote:
> It all boils down to a society that not only
> accepts but promotes guns as a means to defend
> oneself. What the NRA doesn't tell you is that
> accidental deaths are far more prevalent than self
> defenses. Plus, most of the guns in the hands of
> criminals were originally legal guns that were
> stolen. Nearly all handguns start off as legally
I hope you didn’t think you were going to get away with making a stupid, ignorant statement like the second sentence in your whining post. Without guns as a means to defend oneself, we have entered the “Victim” mentality that you obviouslyu embrace. The old adage “ when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns” has never been more true. It’s far too late to make all guns magically disappear, that is never going to happen, ever. How else do we defend our homes? Let’s look at what happened in Campbell last week. Bravo to the homeowner! Go ahead and be a victim and see where it gets you…. Violated and most likely dead. You are correct that most guns in the hands of gangsters start out as legally purchased. But to say that accidental gun deaths are “more prevalent than self defense” NO WAY am I going to let you make a bleeding heart-liberal gun grabbing-Sarah Brady-propaganda-stupid statement like that. I have pasted some of the thousands of sources about that subject that makes you look like a fool. Read and weep. I have bolded and enlarged the stats that you will not like. These statistics are from the U.S. Dept of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics, updated 9/24/2005
• According to the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) in 2005, 477,040 victims of violent crimes stated that they faced an offender with a firearm.
• Incidents involving a firearm represented 9% of the 4.7 million violent crimes of rape and sexual assault, robbery, and aggravated and simple assault in 2005.
*The FBI's Crime in the United States estimated that 66% of the 16,137 murders in 2004 were committed with firearms.
In 2005, about 68% of all murders, 42% of all robberies, and 21% of all aggravated assaults that were reported to the police were committed with a firearm.
According to data from the National Center for Health Statistics, in 2001 about 39% of the deaths that resulted from firearms injuries were homicides, 57% were suicides, 3% were unintentional, and 1% were of undetermined intent.
• According to the 1997 Survey of State Prison Inmates, among those possessing a gun, the source of the gun was from -
• a flea market or gun show for fewer than 2%
• a retail store or pawnshop for about 12%
• family, friends, a street buy, or an illegal source for 80%
Accidental discharge of firearm,All Ages: 776