> Show me a cost/benefit analysis and a needs study,
> explain EXACTLY what will be provided with this
> tax money (routes, schedules, capital equipment
> replacement costs, ridership numbers) then we'll
I'd like to see this stuff too. If, for example, they just want to reinstate the night and weekend service without expanded and more frequent routes, I won't be voting for the sales tax.
> I know it seems like a Catch-22, but let's look at
> taxing the whole county under the premise that the
> whole county will then have bus service. First of
> all, how many people from the north half of
> Washingtonville, or from Greenford, or Ellsworth,
> or Craig Beach, or Sebring, are going to use the
> bus? Where would they go on it? They're all in
> Mahoning County. Are they going to support the
> WRTA? Of course not. People not in and immediately
> surrounding Youngstown will not support throwing
> more of their money at Youngstown
Again, I'm going to use SARTA (Stark Area Regional Transit Authority) as the model. Areas with heavier use/population obviously get more service. To do otherwise would be wasteful.
This route happens to be very popular, and serves many people. As you can see, it runs every half hour from 5AM to 9PM.
And, then from 9:45PM to 12:45AM, there is the night route:
The less populated part of the county gets service. But, in proportion to its population.
> - they still
> remember and resent the questionable shennanigans
> that led up to the birth of the Mill Creek Metro
> Park District. How much use do you suppose those
> towns I mentioned get out of Mill Creek Park?
I don't know what you're talking about. I wasn't living here when the park was "given" to the county. From your description I assume the MAJORITY of the voters wanted the city to keep the park?
The residents of these distant towns are still free to use the park like everyone else... Also, how is the park funded? Is it through a sales tax, property tax, or what? If it's a sales tax, and they feel that resentful, they could always boycott stores in Mahoning county and do their shopping in a neighboring county.
> How many buses will the WRTA send to the small
> towns that dot Mahoning County? Will people be
> able to catch one to go to work, and another to
> get back home? What times will the buses run? Will
> they run every 20 minutes, so if you miss one you
> can catch the next?
I don't know. As I said in my response to response, I'd like to know this too, before voting for anything.
> Do you begin to see why it's laughable to think
> that anyone outside the Youngstown Metro area will
> support the WRTA? They know what they'll get for
> their higher tax payments: bupkiss.
Remember, the WRTA is asking for a sales tax. If the residents of these distant small towns don't feel that they are receiving enough service for their share of the tax, they can boycott businesses in Mahoning county and do their shopping in neighboring counties.
> Heck, I'D ride the bus if it was convenient and
> available! . . . and affordable. But if I have to
> walk a half mile and then stand in the freezing
> rain for 20 minutes, and then not be taken where I
> need to go, so I have to walk some more through
> the bad weather when I get off the bus, then I
> might as well drive.
I'd hope that this is what the sales tax would address--making mass transit available and convenient to as many people as possible throughout the county.