> This isn't a zero-sum situation wherein we either
> continue to bankrupt ourselves by fighting
> needless wars, or be enslaved by terrorists.
Kill or be killed is as zero-sum as it gets.
> could much more easily seek to contain potential
> terrorists and work harder to keep these types
> from our shores by using good intelligence and
> start restricting travel or money transfers to
> countries where we have evidence of Al-Qaida
> training facilities.
We've done many those things and, by themselves it isn't enough. It is impossible to provide a 100% effective seal around the USA.
We have an open society and the country is too large. There's no reasonable way the government can track all of the travel and transactions.
> If we're worried about homegrown terrorists, we
> could simply put an end to any and all travel to
> Pakistan/Afghanistan/Sudan/etc. We can't be hit
> from Kabul, and we can prevent anyone coming into
> this country who's been to any risky country
How would the government stop travel to those countries. We've had a travel ban on Cuba for almost 50 years, and Americans go there daily. They just fly to Mexico and then from Mexico they fly to Cuba. The Cubans don't require a visa or stamp American passports so its impossible for the USA government to know they were there.
And in the news this week it was reported that the government isn't able to track foreigners who overstay their visas.
> Obama's wrong on all this. Originally, we were
> correct to go into Afghanistan, but we put
> ourselves in a situation where we cannot win over
> the last 5 years.
We definitely won't win if we don't take the advice of the general on the ground. A surge won in Iraq at a time when most Democrats said the war was lost. Obama was right to advocate for a surge in Afghanistan.
> As for 9-11, my life didn't change one iota.
Then you must have born on or after 9/12/01.
> it was tragic, but I'm much more concerned with
> the local meth-heads than I am about some
You have that luxury of non-concern because since 9/11/01, we've been fighting the fundamentalists in Iraq and Afghanistan rather than here. We don't fight them there we will fight them here.
Plus, I've lived in London where
> there had been numerous bombings over the years;
> that's life, and while the state should do what it
> can to protect us, there's always that variable
> that could happen.
The less the state does the bigger that variable gets. The more the state does the smaller that variable gets. You're advocating that the state do less.
Look no further than that lad
> on the US national team who almost died in that
> car accident yesterday.
> Only the naive think that 9-11 changed anything in
> this world.
Yeah, other than two wars, the reorganization of the U.S. federal government, the enactment of major new laws, the reordering of the world economy, 9/11 didn't change anything. LOL